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Battlezone 2: Combat Commander cheats / Battlezone 2: Combat Commander hints / Battlezone 2: Combat Commander faqs / Battlezone 2: Combat Commander solutions Battlezone 2: Combat Commander hints BZ2 Tips and Strategy Hints :. 1. Moving Builders (and other slow units) Quickly: A way to move a Builder rapidly: I've tried everything I can thing of based on this limited info and end up doing nothing but damaging the Builder. How is this done? Also, is it possible playing ISDF to quickly move the Constructor? When you morph sonic blast it becomes "Sonic Wave". You can push any unit around without damaging it using sonic wave. It's great for pushing units into the drink or simply keeping them from getting where they are going. Especially some enemy Maulers headed for a Spire or the Matriarch. No , you cannot move ISDF Constructors since ISDF tech-tree does not offer a Sonic Wave. 2. A Deeper Analysis Comparing Laser To Gauss Gun: Laser combat does more damage than gauss assault at the same fire rate; however, gauss assault has fifty percent greater range. Laser assault does more damage than gauss combat per second, but gauss combat has 20m range advantage. Gauss combat does more damage per second than laser combat at the same AI range. Laser assault does fifty percent more damage every two seconds than gauss assault, though gauss assault reaches almost twice the range. Laser AI ranges match weapon limit: 120m for combat, 100m for assault. gauss AI ranges are shorter than weapon limit: 120m combat (150m limit), 185m assault (190m limit). Gauss combat is better, think Sentries. Laser assault is better, but what AI vehicle is going to use it? If you're driving a walker, stick with Laser. 3. Regarding Scion Sentries: Seems that Scions either use them a lot or not at all. In the past couple of weeks I've started to make use of this under-utilized, underappreciated unit. They're really fast, relatively cheap, and can go just about anywhere you can. 4. Scion Tip - How to use Sentries: In the early game...all you need is two pools. Throw up a kiln and you're in business. i. Take out guardians/turrets with your solar flares then send in 2 or 3 sentries to destroy the extractor (no sense using up your own scout's limited ammo). These little suckers can hit and run before the enemy knows what's happened. When they morph to assault, they can do some good damage against buildings. ii. Later in the game, give 'em the right shields, and make a mixed squad of ion guns and some EMP-bearing sentries. When you get close to an enemy tank, send in those sentries first, then come along with your arc/ion cycling. Those quick- moving sentries can really discombobulate your enemy when he's zapped by the EMPs. Almost guarantees you'll be able to hit the player with at least 2 more arc zaps, as he tries to get away. (I said, almost.) iii. When you're far from base, fresh new ion Sentries can get to you faster than any other unit. When it's time to attack the enemy buildings, a swarm of them can really help out the offense. They tend to get spread out when travelling, so it's best to bring them to a nav nearby first. Let them all gather 'round, then send them in. iv. Use [Sentries] to distract/destroy turrets and GTs when sending other units in to attack buildings. They're fragile but can buy you the time needed to get maulers past those defenses. 5. In a hurry to get somewhere special, fast?: Hop in a Sentry. Late in the game when your enemy is in a Sabre, you'll leave him eating your dust. And he probably won't even expect you to be in a Sentry when there's Warriors or Scouts in the area. 6. Using Blink Effectively: I always use the Blink I don't know wy more people don't!!! I make people regret pucking all there GT's in front and For ISDF puting all their power in the back of the base. Just drive hold the blink "BLOOM" You are on the other side of their taking out there power. Then all the GT's are just really big and costy paperweights. Any way I was doing this and they Kicked me with the message "I Don't Know how you are doing that. Ether your lag is really high or you are hacked" LOL I love the Blink. 7. Learn To Fly(not to be confused with piloting): You should learn how to fly the ship. Basically, you turn your auto leveling off, and run up a mountain, turn the ships nose to the ground and hit reverse. Easier said than done, but you will get the hang of it. The way I see it, flying is a learned skill, and is one of the hardest to learn skills in the game. It's much harder to fly a scout or MB well, than it is to drive it on the ground. I don't see it as unbalancing because I am capable of going after someone flying if I have to, but in most cases it's not necessary. I'd rather keep a bunch of service trucks going, and let the guy fly bomb all they want. i. In Response: Here are my reasons playing Auto-Level OFF against Auto-Level ON. i) Fighting officially sucks -Normally when staying ground bound, the only reason someone would stick to a cliff is because of partial cover and the ability to get away by dodging enemy fire with a big leap. Now, when people fight, ALO'ers (auto-level off'ers as I call them) they look for the nearest cliff like a life line for an opportunity to jump in the air and fire down at them. Now, I've experienced this WAY more than once, and have gotten good at anticipating and evading it, but I still think it's kind of silly, stupid, and unintentional within the games limitations to have a scout flying in the air pointing down firing on others. That isn't a hovertank, and if a flying vehicle can do that, it shouldn't be able to point straight down. The intention was ground battle, and I'll be damned every time someone wants to take it to the sky; they can suck my shadowers. However: Using an ALO jump, an ALO'er can go much farther and reach places normal Auto- leveled players cannot, or have an incredibly hard time reaching. Such places are like the tops of cliffs, or jumping from mountain to mountain etc. etc. I ALWAYS play auto-level off. All my friends do to. I love the freedom and improved Mortar range. ii. Regarding Turrents: Learn how the turrets track ships, you need to learn how to kill turrets. People do this in various ways. I have seen pilots start flying from a standstill position and then hover of the turret and kill it. I still can't really do this very well and I am very jealous of the thugs who do. Another way is to just circle the turret and kill it. This is a bit more conventional but needs some practice. Turrets are easy to destroy because they can't point straight up. Attack them from the air (see Flying). 8. Using Jammers As Scion: If you are playing Scion, if you build a jammer, you can then build a spire on top of it. The enemy has to to kill the jammer first in order to kill the spire. but remember, always put a turret near the lung so those rats that try to kill the lung will get toasted. Jammers I find are very useful for something - locking out pools. A scavenger cannot be ordered to deploy on a pool if there is a jammer within 250 meters of it. That can be very nasty, for example: A player has a pool with 2 gun towers guarding it, and comes and beats you off whenever you try to take it out. You just build a spire 250m away, and build a jammer. Now order a mauler to go get his ext (3 mauler hits, easy), and he has a pretty hard job to get that pool back, having to get past your spire, destroy your jammer, get a new scav built and order it to deploy. You might just build another jammer by then too. Some negative feedback on Jammers in Spires: Building a Jammer inside a Spire isn't in the same category as having a TURRET inside a pool. The deployed Extractor protects the turret, keeping it from being damaged while it toasts you. The Jammer in the spire takes almost nothing to kill and doesn't do much more than look cool.... Seriously, that's what started that. The Jammer just LOOKS like it should be part of a Spire, and is one of the few buildings that doesn't 'own' the terrain around it, allowing you to build a Spire around it. I happen to feel 'someone' out there wanted it thus. I ran some tests with the jammer and was unable to find that it did anything useful. I put it in proximity of stuff and nothing was protected from the bomber. I had one built right in an ISDF base, then built a RT close by (i.e. in radar range), which was able to take it out. So it didn't stop me from ordering a unit to attack when it was close to the jammer. I built then next to a target and ordered the bomber to attack. So it didn't stop me from ordering the AI to attack when it was close to the target. Apparently it only masks objects from appearing on the radar screen, which is pretty useless since they are visually quite obvious. Sorta like a non-mobile red field. Big deal! 9. Study the Build Plan: Learn the build trees. Hate to admit this, but it took me a long time to realize what the minimun build requirements were for building a bomber bay. I would always try and build everything possible before I even attempted to build the bomber bay. 10. On Setting Nav Points: Don’t set them closer than 10-30 meters to the pool. It will obscure the pool region on the map with a blue mark making it very difficult to see if the extractor is set or not to all your teammates. The larger the map the more distance needed for clarity. If you put your nav on top of pool, you can get teammates killed as they frustratedly try to place the scav on pool and it keeps locking on to the nav point instead. Your teammate will have manuever about more predictably, and have to get much closer to the pool to set it, leading to easier deaths for opposition. Don’t set your nav on top of a teammates nav for the same reason, it turns his green mark on his map to a blue smudge. When I set a pool nav its also has a secondary use. Its positioning is also selected for a single turret at the pool, for late game remote pool takedown by turret or other unit. So its usually on a slight rise near the pool, on the side nearest my base, so the turret doesnt make a slowdown as it attempts to manuever past the set extractor. I've killed many enemys turrets because they were dispatched so their final spot was 2 zigs around the extractor, giving me another 10 seconds to get it before it deploys. Setting navs with the travel path in mind can lead to quicker traveling scavs if you lead them in the straighest lines possible. Every time they zig to turn a corner, they slow down. If there are other AI near it as it makes path decisions, both AI will be confused and jostle and even contribute to game lag. If you set a nav incorrectly, its easily fixed by selecting the nav to highlight it and then hit delete key. Learn how to use the topography of the maps and place your nav points in the right spots. A great way to learn this is to copy cat a vet and just place your navs where the vet will place his or hers. This is very important because misplaced navs are very useless. Plus, always place a nav at your service bay. Early in the game, place a Nav Point at your Rec’s spawning point. This way, you can send damaged vehicles to pick up POD’s automatically. Later, however, the recycler apron nav is a general "base" nav, not used to pick up a power-up (in case the base is attacked, I can send stuff there, or if I just need to get a scav out of danger, I'll send it to there). For me it's nothing to send a smoking turret to the recycler apron (even in battle), rather than just let it be destroyed. It's no more micromanagement than playing the game itself. Of course I don't really use that nav once the service bay is up. I always find that having a nav point next to every pool is useful when using empty's to help you. This way, instead of looking around for a scav to order attacked, before driving off to some other corner of the map to distract the enemy, you can just order the scout to the nav. It's still easy to have nav1 on your service bay, by simply deleting nav1 and re-placing it at your bay. One person says to always try to keep Nav 1 for the dower/service bay. Just a bit of consistency. But others argue that setting your Service Bay to nav beacon slot 2 would save you even more effort. Then you just have to press 2 twice and you're done. Nav1 is the recycler apron (for power ups), nav2 is the service bay (always). Nav beacons can be given custom names but does anyone actually take the time in a game to use this feature? I would love to name the nav points, but who has time to jump into they relay bunker and type all that in. Is there a way to name the navs while you are still in your ship?? No response has yet been submitted. Determining Direction Using Navpoints: It does not matter about having your navpoint N1 at your service bay, just press tilde key (`) then choose the navpoint that is on your service bay and press enter. It will highlite it on your map so you wont get confused in action. Also, if you have a few navpoints and your not where you are, you can highlite a few important navpoints to get your bearings. 11. On Pushing Vehicles: I have noticed that pushing scavs into the water seems to be acceptable. So you new guys out there - learn how to push scavs into the water. Plus, learn how to push your builder when you are scion. If you use the sonic blast weapon and hit the morph key, you then activate the sonic wave - well, this is a great method to push the builders clear across any map in no time. However, doing the old spire walk is considered a no no among the elite players, its kinda cheap. But, you know what would be cool is if you can somehow push your builder into a enemy base and deconstruct their rec, that would be hilarous. Highly improbable way to win however. 12. Fleeing The Scene?: If you try and run away from danger then you should always point your nose down to the ground and hit your thrusters. If you see any types of hills you should jump them. 13. Flarius Gets Nasty: Flarius has a Nasty Little Trick website at - Nasty Strat 14. On Scav management: When a deployed scav is killed it yields 4 scrap bits or 20 scrap verses the 10 for an undeployed. An advanced pilot tells his scav to pick up that loose before he sets it. This quick influx of loose quickly pays for the scav if it should be lost due to the small delay, and is a good bonus if not. I try to report that 20 in loose is coming when I can, this often allows us to get our chains that much quicker. Or a much needed GT gets built in the nick of time. If I see that the enemys pilots are setting scavs on pools without tidying up first I follow this procedure. Pound on the poor enemy scav until its hull is red. Let it set, triggering the scrap production delay from new deployment. Once its fully transformed into an extractor, put it out of its misery. My scav picks up the victims 20 and then I set it. Now my meter stops, but its at a good spot, with enough to build something and 10 seconds to get to base. Letting the enemy scav set results an extra 10 for my side with a tidy bonus of stopping scrap flow for 10 seconds to enemys coffers (effectively a 10 scrap penalty for them). 15. Using Mortar Bikes: You don't need to fly a bike to take out the defenses and I normally don't. The bike is just incredibly agile and shadowers don't lock on very easy. If the commander gives me an MDM bike as soon as it's available, then the base defenses will be down shortly. And I can get a bike before you can get plenty of service trucks which you will lose anyway. However I hardly ever ask for an MDM bike, because it really doesn't make for a good game. One of two things happen when the bike appears. Either the other team gets upset because it's all going down too fast. Or the other team has a good bike pilot and they start returning the favor. The reason the bike is so much more insideous is that it is so difficult to kill whether it's attacking or running. I can stop a Sabre from mortaring nearly as soon as I engage it. It's difficult to stop a bike from mortaring even while you are attacking it. Naturally this is only applicable to team strat. There are usually too many things to do for the commander to be in a bike. But when ordering something like a mortar bike to attack the enemy scavenger, it is a little more time consuming to order it to attack the extractor itself, though if you do that you will make the most of the mortar bike's range. You can usually get it to sit 200m away making the enemy confused for at least a little while until they are discovered, and when they are (you'll see the red dot) then they get a 200m headstart back home. However, ordering the MB to a navpoint near the scav is a sure way to get them slaughtered when discovered (see Setting Nav Points). 16. Turrets In Service Bays: Building a turret in the centre of your service bay is, I find, better than a gun tower/spire. Why? Turrets penetrate armour better than towers, especially when given chainguns/gauss guns. A turret in a service bay is very rarely killable without destroying the service bay. MDM's will hit the turret, but it repairs. MDM's will bounce off the bay, making the combo less vulnerable than a tower. Finally you can change the armament of a turret in bay to react to scion shields, or enemy tactics. In Argument: Can’t Turrents in Service Bays be view as using the same lame cheater’s tactic as putting Turrents in Pools is consider currently? After all, if the Service Bay constantly repairs the Turrent, how can anyone be expected to beat it? 17. Using Armory/Forge to Disable Turrents or Other Stationary Vehicles: Make weak weapons (i.e. EMP Lockdown) and throw it at a enemy Turrent/Guardian/Towers. EMP Lockdown in a turret makes a weapon called EMP Stream. It has a range of 40m, and if it constantly paints it's target, it stops it's target from using it's weapons. What could be more useless in a turret? This can obviously be a good counter to Turrets in Service Bays. 18. On Spire Walking: Although considered by most as a cheap way of playing, if a player spire-walks you, and you're a half-decent player (one who actually knows the construction tree), bear in mind that he probably does NOT have a base, or base defense. As a scion, I can *always* beat a fast-spire-walker with 1 mauler, destroying their recycler, and with it their chances of success. As ISDF, I use an assault tank with mortars. 19. On ISDF Bombers: Whenever you see an enemy bomber in a team game, target it with ‘T’ on your keyboard, then tell the other players to attack your target via the menus. This will show the bomber up as a big red dot on their HUD and radar until you issue another order. Assuming you never issue another order, a commander will always know when the bomber is coming - which will make him very happy. Shoot At Bombs: When a bomber is not destroyed, it will deposit it's bomb. You then have a window of about 1.5 seconds to destroy the bomb in mid-air. It has about twice the health of a crate, and if destroyed deals no damage whatsoever. Obviously this can be so useful it can sometimes make the difference between victory and defeat. If you target the bomber, it will be un-targetted as soon as it goes out of radar range. scouts have pretty long radar ranges for units (about 300 I think). Com bunkers have very long ranges (500?), but overseer arrays have absolutely huge ones(800?). If you want to tell your teammates where the bombers is, don't just target it, since you will lose the target when you get some distance from it. You must actually use the 'attack my target' command from the menu. And remember... paint the bomber AND NOT the bomber bay! If enemy has bomber, one teamate should be constantly scouting enemy base and painting bomber for entire team. No other painting should occur during bomber threats, so as to not risk losing the bomber target. Everyone should mirror bomber paint. 20. Learn The Scion Shields: Especially in a scion v scion, shields are usually the key to scion success. Just remember that kinetic weapons (AT-stabs, SP-stabs, chainguns, quills) are usually quite penetrating, reducing the usefulness of deflection shields. (Deflection acts as armour against these weapons, but these weapons penetrate that armour pretty well.) I personally NEVER find a use for stasis shields, but a newbie could well find these easier to manage, and they are certainly not a bad choice. 21. Surprise!!!: Be ready to see something new. Never accuse a player of cheating or hacking when he does something you don't believe possible. There are always things in this game people have never found (for example, I found a tactic a tiny bit less useful than tipping a tank forwards, tonight.). It's best just to ask how someone does something. If he doesn't tell you, try your best to play against him in future, and study him 'till you know it. 22. On Making Big Units Harder To Take Out: In a walker or assault tank, equip the cannon hardpoint with plasma stabbers. The proximity damage will make them able to damage a strafing scout that they could not hit otherwise. 23. On Targeting Enemy Vehicles: The other thing you should always be aware of is the targeting of the enemy. I can't tell you how many times I would target an enemy scout to just have a newbie go after him and die. When teammates target a scout, you should assess wether or not he wants you to actually attack or just be aware of the situation. Normally when someone targets an enemy ship for me, I target the ship for my teammate right away. Now remember, some targets have more importance than others, and you can have only one target at a time. So if someone targets the bomber, never target anything else after that. Always have the bomber targeted. And the target should be a chain event. Once someone targets the bomber, then the person who has it on their target scope, should then have everyone on his team targeted to the bomber. Hope that made sense. How To Target Vehicles: Let’s cover targeting from the beginning. First hit your F10 and F9 key to select your 2 wings. Now point at a target and press from your Command Menu "Attack My Target". A red highlight will follow target where ever it goes on map, no matter the range. It only stays visible for them, you lose it as soon as your radar range is exceeded. A good teammate will mirror the "paint" so that the guy who first painted target also gets a lock that covers the entire map. In fact that may be the only reason that he painted the target at all, to keep track of a commander for example. You can mirror targets painted for you without range limitations. Don't automatically assume that "attack my target" means exactly that and go chasing wildly after it on your own. If you paint another target after the first, the first mark or "paint" will transfer to new target and the wing you selected will lose the lock on the first one (including "go to" chain, etc.). You get one paint from each wing that will stay until target is destroyed or transfered to another target, so its possible to have up to 3 marks tracking on your map. Targeting has great value in the initial dogfight, if the whole team selects one target and concentrates fire, and repeats process untill entire opposing team is out of ships. If a wing has targeted an extractor, its likely he has shot it red already and ran out of ammo. Another note on painting: When you paint friendly targets, it will say defend my target and be highlited in blue. If a commander says defend my target and paints a constructor he's trying to get out in the field, often the best defense is to lead the fight away from that area so the constructor doesn't get discovered. If you are in possesion of service trucks and receive a "defend friendly target", it could be a request to get it serviced. If you're a commander, a common way your pilots will tell you that a turret is undeployed in your base is to paint it for you. They are busy doing their job, and thats often the only warning you will get (and lucky to get that). Also pilots can indicate to each other exactly which scav it is they would like passed to them. Every now and then I've received "service my target", not sure how this is different from defend command, maybe someone else knows how to specify repair. 24. Monitoring Wingman Vehicles: By selecting one of your wings you can see bargraphs of his health and his ammo and use this to make strategic decisions based on his hull and ammo load. Tilde Key (~): Also, while your wing is selected pressing the tilde key gives you a list of all units in his possesion, an easy way to see who has a spare tank and who doesn’t. About the tilde key thing - can you command your thug's units? NO YOU CAN"T. 25. Concentrate Fire On Enemy Ships: Remember that it's better to have 2 healhty enemies rather then 3 damged. This is because it only costs your oppenent 2 scrap for a POD and a little bit of time. However, a new scout costs 20 scrap, loss of FAF missiles, a lot of time or loss of sniper rifle. Plus, in this case, you would have only two opponents shooting at you instead of taking damage from three ships! 26. Undefended Pools: If an enemy scout is attacking a undefended pools. Leave him alone. Don't go shooting with what Saint calls "ring around the rosie" with him. In the strategic element of the game, the more the enemy has you occupied defending targets and your own base, the more time his commander has to establish a base and his resources. I have had plenty of games with vets that all we did for a good part of the game is to kill each others scavs. I know this sound boring but if you let the good enemy have the resources he needs, you are sure to lose. Plus, if you see an enemy extractor plus a enemy scavs picking up scrap around that pool, kill the roving scav first because 1) its easier to kill 2) the enemy can't quickly deploy it after you kill the current extractor. 27. Defending Extractors: If you have a wingman, you can defend a scav...but you have to each take a side and stay there. That way, no matter where the attacker goes, he's getting shot. Try to overcome the urge to strafe around with him...not only will you interfere with your wingman, you won't be able to hit the attacker near as much as if you just kept to your side. 28. Tips On How To Practice: I usually play 1 player, then play over a LAN with close friends (and clanmates). Only if the game is well and truly extraordinary do I play it online, and I quickly learn a lot of things I didn't know before! (Especially on BZ2 - everything from builders walking up cliffs, to flying, to guntower- wobblekilling!) It's sometimes nicer to play the game without knowing any cheap tactics for a while. 29. Using Drop Off Points: I've noticed a lot of veteran commanders neglecting the drop off points feature that Pandi gave us in 1.2 patch. This is a very handy feature accessed under the recylers command list, the tilde key activates it. What it does is allow you to set the new spot that units coming out of rec drive go to. This is a great tool to help make life a bit more difficult for snipers as turrets barely pause at all before flying to the drop off point when they are made. Since a commander should be in the field with his men as much as he can, this also allows him to decide where the next turret should be deployed ahead of time. He can then go fight with his wings, build a turret and know that it will settle into the proper spot to fend off the followers that are now pursuing him back to base. If you get scav tangle during a protracted scav war, moving the drop off point to the front of base can help. Consider the path between the rec and the drop off point to minimize turns for best flow. The factory also has a drop off point, so your rocket tanks can now go straight from production to the service bay without any help from you. A Note From Ken Miller: I'm glad someone finally noticed the Drop Off point. It was a "bonus" I put in there one day because it was really easy to write, and I thought it would be cool. I figured it couldn't hurt, since DR2 uses it to good effect. 30. Luring Enemy Scavs: Don’t forget to lure scavengers to your base (or other heavily defended site), all you have to do is blow up an empty scout. You can then easily destroy many a wandering scav that keeps trying automatically to get at 10 measly scrap deep inside your base. 31. Tweaking Texture Detail (DogMeat here. I am copying this verbatum since I have no experience doing this tweak.): Speaking of graphics, one little "trick of the trade" that I discovered and use myself, is to "create" more texture detail by using a lesser texture filtering. yeah this ain't a game skill trick but rather a game settings trick. by default, i believe bz2 is at "linearmiplinear" which tends to do a lot of bilinear filtering, creating a "fuzziness" to the model and terrain textures. what i do is change it to "linear" and it clears up the textures somewhat, sorta like clearing your sinuses... it just clears up the filtering to expose more original texture detail. the sacrifice is that linear filtering exposes laddering and waviness that is inherent in this level of tex filter, but the sacrifice ain't too great and you do get a better clearer picture. with linear, the waviness of the terrain as you move around is more provocative in lesser resolutions, like 640x480, but less apparent at 1024x768, which is the resolution i run bz2 in, or higher. and changing it to linear is great especially when you are using the small textures pak, where the textures are already fuzzy-looking. console command is: vid.filter.linear to take off tex filtering ompletely, use: vid.filter.nearest. Any pandemic programmers may wish to elaborate some more. 32. Placing Nav Points For Scions: Placing the nav above the matriarch's head still works ok, but I don't like it being up there, so I place it in advance. I tell the matriarch to deploy, then remember the wireframe to place the nav exactly. You get used to doing it second- nature after a few goes. The problem with scions using this tactic is the fact that a scion pod appears slightly below ground level, and this causes scion units to p*ss about a bit while trying to get to the pod. On the Matriarch service nav, if you aim nav closer to center of rec floor to compensate for floor vs ground height differences, you can nail that pod spawn spot everytime with practice. Its a good idea to remove those navs once you get dower or bay, since they hide pods rather effectively. 33. Deploying Rec At Start Of Game: At start, select Rec and use wireframe option to orient its position. Deploy without moving it; this will save precious seconds at the start. When Rec (and Factory, too) is deployed, select it and use the ~ key to set the drop off point. This very handy new feature new feature can be changed as base gets set up. 34. Gauss Gun Usage: While playing the computer (doesn't work well in a human v human), try giving a sentry or a warrior a gauss gun, then throwing a shield pod to be picked up *after* the gauss gun is installed. For some reason this causes the gauss gun to fire 2-3 times more rapidly, making it one incredibly powerful weapon. Shame it's ammo consumption is so poor. 35. A Note On Recycling Usable Buildings: One players said, “Though I did Recycler my Factory to get Bomber Bay faster.” Another’s response was, “Interesting tactic, but where do you draw the line at scrap cheating?” 36. On Confusing Your Opponent: Always have at least one AI unit at your command (especially a mortar bike, but an empty scout with an AI pilot does ok). Then place one nav at your service bay deck, that's all. Delete all other navs. Here's the trick... if you find an enemy scavenger, and its undefended, tell your stray MB (or pack of them, if you like) to attack it and IMMEDIATELY draw the opponent's attention by shooting something nearby, perhaps another pool. Buy his time and dance around the pool or whatnot, then when the pool you ordered to be destroyed earlier is gone, quickly hit the Ctrl-group of the units, then 2 then 1, and they will go back to the bay. Remember, AI units are less affected by lag than we are, and will most likely be able to escape from the enemy in a laggy game. Plus if they are discovered, you can instinctively press ctrl group 2 1 to run home, and, while knowing your enemy is distracted, proceed to attack one of his other pools. Try to split your opponent's attention, but play him into your hands. Make him go where you want him to go. This same technique can also be used by pilots. Find a stray scavenger close to the enemy base, and fire on the scav enough rounds to cause their radar to go BEEP BEEP and they realize the scav is under attack. Since it's close by, someone will surely run out of the base looking for a fight, until they realize you are right behind them, and after firing the four rounds into the enemy's scav, you hid nearby silent in wait and got him in the rear. See? Play them into your hands. I will part with one more... placing more attractive targets (like assault tanks) alone somewhere with a scav next to it will attract your enemy. Since they are rather simple to take down even with a stock empty this will draw them away as they hack at its armor for a minute. This is a PERFECT diversion and can give you enough time to do something nasty to their base, at the cost of an assault tank (of course, the scavenger is there to pick up his remains, not a complete loss). 37. Arranging Your Command Groups: Similarly I shuffle F keys around, to try to keep F1-F4 for combat units. F1 for my #1 squad at the moment; scavs and turrets get relegated down to F7 8 or 9 (depending on the number of teammates).Builders on F5 and F6. Another opinion on groups: I always put my first Constructor/Builder at F1. Then F2 - F4 initially is for Turrents to defend Pools which are coincidently labeled Nav2 - Nav4 (Nav1, of course is Service Bay/Rec Apron). That way, I know if a Turrent assigned F2 is being attacked that my pool at Nav2 is being invaded. Then F5-F8 are assigned to attack groups with F5 usually assigned to my personal wingmen. In SP games I then use F9 for Bomber and always F10 for Service Truck. In MP games my Service Truck is assigned to F8. The basic thought is that I do not break up my group by number necessarially, but rather by how the F keys are physically separated on the keyboard. Using the separation helps in the heat of battle knowing which key you need to hit without really taking your eyes off the screen. 38. The Dead Pool: Time Virus The infamous "dead pool". This has been the scourge of many a good strat. It is caused by moving a scav off the pool at the exact instant it is setting. A lot of players knew this already but what a lot don't know is you can fix it if you act quickly. When you see a scav exhibiting the deploying animation as it travels, this is the source scav of a dead pool. If you target that source scav, you can see who the dufus is who broke it. To repair the pool you must tell the source scav to pick you up, and you personally drive it to the broken pool and deploy it. The pool will now be repaired. To avoid this in the first place you can do a couple things to help. Try to give scavs to one designated pilot (scavenger sergeant) so he can keep track of them and be careful to not move off them pools. And when I set a scav I assign it to a special group so I know its set and dont accidently tell any of that group to scavenge. 39. Dealing With Mr. Clumsy: Time Virus How many times have you told your constructor to build defenses as you saw the red dots appear on radar, only to have it do a little dance instead and you lose half your base as a result. Well you can bump him to speed things up but its not random bumping that does it. Each time you disturb him expect a 1 to 3 second dance penalty for the offense. So your bump should instead be one long smooth push similar to pushing a scav in water. The constructor is easily confused by other AI in your base, especially turrets. Should they encounter, the constructor will dance for anything from 3 seconds to 5 minutes until the turret may decide to undeploy and move for him. The turrets almost never redeploy after this courtesy making them prime sniper bait. You can avoid the turret undeploying if its directly in the builders only path by pushing the builder up and over the turret. This helps the with the builders inevitable confusion and also prevents the turret from undeploying. The builder seems to prefer the path along the line between build tiles and if your turrets are deployed completely within a tile that is built already, there is much less chance they will undeploy for Mr. Clumsy. The other thing that confuses builders is dual pathing problems. If you tell your builder to build something exactly diagonaly across your recycler, expect a lot of dancing as it decides which way to go and finally makes its way around kitty corner. A bump in one direction can help. I've found that if you must bump your builder, then the best way is to bump it to the center of another build tile entirely. Now watch it for 3 seconds to see if it snaps out of it, usually that one tile bump is all it needs to recalculate a path and gather its wits. If you need to bump it again, do it a minimum length of another tile. So there are some good times to bump your builder, but if its path is unobstructed and it doesnt seem confused, you are probably better off letting it waddle along at its own pace. The bumped speed is only about 10% faster and you must account for the inevitable dance. 40. Scav Stunning: Time Virus Every time a scav is shot at it often will stop scavenging, so if you want them to keep picking up as they are under fire, tell them repeatedly to scavenge. The reverse can be used to slow enemy scavs from vaccuming your precious loose by sprinkling them all with gunfire before concentrating your efforts on your main target. 41. Satellite Resources: Time Virus When a commander gives you scavs, dont set the pools local to base. Thats his job. Get them set as far as possible from base. The farther a scav is from home, the more its worth. Everythings cost must have the time component factored in, not just its basic scrap cost. Likewise killing enemy scavs, the most valuable are the ones farthest from enemy base. ALWAYS move your scavs out of base to a remote nav when commander gives them to you. They obstruct defenses, confuse builders and other AI, add to general base lag and are generally unsightly. A tidy base is an efficient base. 42. Turrets on Crack: Time Virus If you see a turret undeployed in your base, often a headbutt by you will remind it to deploy again. This can be alot quicker than typing to commander that hes got an undeployed turret. 43. Kill Extra Scavs First: Fly135 Kill the wandering scavs before you kill the pool. I prefer to take all scavs and extractors down to red before killing any of them. Get back and get a load of ammo and then kill them all. That way the enemy doesn't get the scrap which results when you kill one at a time. In the meantime you should be moving some scavs into the area for reaping the big harvest of loose scrap. 44. Got Scav? Don't Leave Home w/o One!: LoC Mattroxx When I'm commanding, I try to make sure that each thug has at least one scav at all times; but sometimes they don't do anything with the scav and it just sits, useless, in the base. When I'm a thug, I always want to have at least one scav nearby. they have so many uses. -scoop up results of dogfights -default target for enemy AI units -good to use as 'shield' to duck behind when fighting -decoy to draw fire from enemy defenses while you toast them ASAP after knocking out enemy extractor, deploy your own scav on the pool. Even if it's close to enemy base and won't last long, it will draw a lot of attention from your opposing commander. 45. Shut Up, Biatch!: Time Virus Tired of the nagging Betty always telling you your base is under attack? Units lost, bla bla bla. Like you didnt know... If you put wave files in your addons directory with the right names, they will replace the nagging ladys voice for various warnings. I chose a low key pleasant muted beep for my replacement sound of base under attack. Much less stressful than a woman naggin me constantly. The files names and the warning they will replace: abetty1.wav unit lost abetty2.wav defensive unit lost abetty3.wav offensive unit lost abetty4.wav scavenger lost abetty6.wav base under attack abetty7.wav ammo depleted abetty9.wav damage critical abetty11.wav power lost abetty14.wav building lost icomm01.wav is the background radio chatter when in a relay bunker... replace with your favorite bunker commanders music. Other Battlezone 2: Combat Commander cheats hints faqs solutions: 1. Battlezone 2: Combat Commander cheat codes 2. Battlezone 2: Combat Commander hints 3. Battlezone 2: Combat Commander hints 4. Battlezone 2: Combat Commander hints 1. Battlezone 2: Combat Commander faq and solutions |